1. No I think Shape of You, Castle on the Hill and Galway Girl will make the top 10 but not Perfect 2. Galway Girl 3. Symphony 4. I Feel It Coming 5. Pretty Girl 6. 8 7. Chameleon 8. Yes 9. Yes 10. No, I feel like it'll be around #9-#12 11. Ed Sheeran 12. Can't Stop the Feeling 13. Thunder 14. 10 14a. Rockabye 15. Malibu 16. No 17. Rockstar 18. Yes 18a. Strip That Down 19. Feels 20. Yes Last edited:
1. No 2. Perfect 3. Symphony 4. I Feel It Coming 5. Pretty Girl 6. 7 7. Chameleon 8. make it 9. she will 10. he will 11. [s]Quavo[/s] Khalid (taking a risk here) 12. Can't Stop The Feeling 13. Thunder 14. 5 14a. Rockabye 15. Paris 16. nah 17. Rockstar 18. I think Louis will just miss out so no 18a. Strip That Down 19. Feels 20. Yes
it was just pointed out to me that I missed 14a, thanks 392 Last edited:
1. No 2. Galway Girl 3. Rockabye 4. Starboy 5. Pretty Girl 6. 8 7. Chameleon (though maybe Waves will get a boost back if he performs it at the ARIAs or something) 8. It will make it 9. Yes 10. Yes 11. a tie between Ed Sheeran and Justin Bieber (if I can only pick one, Ed Sheeran) 12. CAN'T STOP THE FEELING! 13. Thunder 14. 9 14a. Rockabye 15. Paris 16. No 17. rockstar 18. Yes 18a. Strip That Down 19. Feels 20. Yes
1. No, only the first three 2. Galway Girl 3. Symphony just 4. again close, probably Starboy just ahead 5. Pretty Girl 6. 10 7. this one is really difficult but I'll go Chameleon because that's what I hope will win 8. Fallin' will make it 9. she will beat it 10. Gonna guess that he'll be just in or just outside the top 10. So no beating his best of #9 11. Alessia Cara , Ed Sheeran and Justin Bieber - 4 entries each 12. don't see Never Be Like You making an appearance but Can't Stop The Feeling definitely will, unfortunately 13. feel the lightning and the thunder thunder 14. 8 feels low but I can only be certain of 8 making it honestly 14a. Rockabye 15. Paris has had slightly better longevity so I'm going with that 16. Havana maybe doesn't have enough time left to end up as high as #15 this year. I'll go no 17. rockstar no competition 18. Yes 18a. Strip That Down, as much as I'd love it to be Slow Hands 19. Feels 20. Yes Last edited:
1. No 2. Galway Girl 3. Symphony 4. I Feel It Coming 5. Pretty Girl 6. 12 7. Waves 8. It will make it 9. Yes 10. He'll equal it, so no. 11. Ed with 5 12. CSTF 13. Thunder 14. 10 14a. Rockabye 15. Paris 16. Yes 17. Rockstar 18. Yes 18a. Strip That Down 19. Feels 20. Yes
I know its way too early to be doing preds but I'm going to post mine now and edit it along the way until the end of December
Shape of You
Luis Fonsi and Daddy Yankee feat. Justin Bieber
Castle on the Hill
Something Just like This
The Chainsmokers and Coldplay
Post Malone feat. 21 Savage
Macklemore feat. Skylar Grey
Ed Sheeran and Beyonce
There’s Nothing Holdin’ Me Back
I’m the One
DJ Khaled feat. Justin Bieber, Quavo, Chance the Rapper and Lil Wayne
Strip That Down
Liam Payne feat. Quavo
Zedd and Alessia Cara
Camila Cabello feat. Young Thug
Too Good At Goodbyes
It Ain’t Me
Kygo and Selena Gomez
Clean Bandit feat. Zara Larsson
What About Us
DJ Khaled feat. Rihanna and Bryson Tiller
Calvin Harris feat. Pharrell Williams, Katy Perry and Big Sean
I Don’t Wanna Live Forever
ZAYN and Taylor Swift
French Montana feat. Swae Lee
Clean Bandit feat. Sean Paul and Anne-Marie
Jonas Blue feat. William Singe
Young Dumb & Broke
Dusk Till Dawn
ZAYN feat. Sia
That’s What I Like
Calvin Harris feat. Frank Ocean and Migos
Look What You Made Me Do
Logic feat. Alessia Cara & Khalid
I Feel It Coming
The Weeknd feat. Daft Punk
The Chainsmokers feat. Halsey
Feel It Still
Portugal. The Man
Sign of the Times
David Guetta feat. Justin Bieber
Body Like a Back Road
Justin Bieber and BloodPop
Call on Me
Post Malone feat. Quavo
Marshmello feat. Khalid
Say You Won’t Let Go
The Weeknd feat. Daft Punk
All Time Low
Can’t Stop the Feeling
I Fall Apart
Snakehips and MØ
Sorry Not Sorry
You Don’t Know Me
Jax Jones feat. Raye
I Like Me Better
Chained to the Rhythm
Katy Perry feat. Skip Marley
Scared to Be Lonely
Martin Garrix and Dua Lipa
Jason Derulo feat. Nicki Minaj and Ty Dolla Sign
Scars to Your Beautiful
Good Old Days
Macklemore feat. Kesha
…Ready for It?
J Balvin and Willy William faet. Beyonce
What Lovers Do
Maroon 5 feat. SZA
Never Be like You
Flume feat. Kai
Back to You
Louis Tomlinson feat. Bebe Rexha and Digital Farm Animals
Frenship and Emily Warren
Selena Gomez and Marshmello
Peking Duk feat. Elliphant
Cheat Codes feat. Demi Lovato
Neiked feat. Dyo
There For You
Martin Garrix and Troye Sivan
Now or Never
Play That Song
Drake feat. Wizkid and Kyla
Mura Masa feat. ASAP Rocky
Don’t Wanna Know
Maroon 5 feat. Kendrick Lamar
Let Me Go
Hailee Steinfeld and Alesso feat. Florida Georgia Line and watt
Let You Down
101. XO Tour Llif3 - Lil Uzi Vert 102. Location - Khalid 103. Black Beatles - Rae Sremmurd feat. Gucci Mane 104. How Far I'll Go - Alessia Cara 105. DNA. - Kendrick Lamar 106. How Would You Feel (Paean) - Ed Sheeran 107. Dancing on My Own - Calum Scott 108. I Would Like - Zara Larsson 109. How Long - Charlie Puth 110. Meant to Be - Bebe Rexha feat. Florida Georgia Line
Yeah, I'm actually starting to agree with you I.E, considering its spent 36 weeks in the top 100 I won't be surprised if people underestimate it. I did a bit of research and I'm pretty sure 2 or 3 would definitely be the record as well
The EOY albums will be super hard to predict this year because...
1. A massive lack of big albums. Compared to the last 5 or 6 years, 2017 has barely had any albums that will go down as massive albums. 2016 had the same problem but there were way more big albums than this year
2. A massive lack of certifications. I know certifications don't always mean everything but it would be a lot easier if there were certifications so it could give people a rough idea of where everything will place
2016 didn't particularly have any big albums either. You just need to look at the Year End Top 10: 2 Christmas albums, one of them having been released in 2011, an album of covers and 2 other 2015 LPs, with 25 even topping the chart. It really was à dead year. At least in 2017 we've had new LPs by Ed Sheeran, P!nk, Taylor Swift and Sam Smith.
The changes of consumer habits who now prefer streaming and who are buying / downloading less and less albums as well as the poor inclusion of streaming in the albums chart explain why albums chart sales are still miserable and why less and less albums are certified.
I'd Say that there are some big eras but due to the changes of consumer habits, it is no longer well reflected into the albums chart.
Streaming has actually been included into albums accreditations since Friday, May 5th. However, "the two tracks attracting most streams are reduced to the level of the average of the next eight highest streamed tracks associated with the album". This rule is a bit stupid IMO. If an album generates some big hits, then it is penalized simply because it includes hits...
I think it's valid, since it's supposed to be measuring the popularity of albums. You need to omit the top two tracks as outliers because otherwise you get a mess like in the US charts where pretty much any big one hit wonder will get a decently charting album if it had already been released, or nothing if it was delayed, even though the album itself is no more popular in the former case.
There's also a manipulation factor to it, where artists will shove old hits on albums just to generate big numbers (and possibly instant certifications). Post Malone's debut album actually went platinum in the US back in March, largely because White Iverson was on it, and I imagine Drake slapped Hotline Bling on Views because it was the only one of his loose singles lying around that'd gotten really popular. Chris Brown encouraged his fans to spam plays for his 45 track album as a transparent way to get numbers.
When people are interested or like an album they do stream it, and the numbers are fair. I'd like to see them higher but they will get there I think. I just blame the way Spotify encourages people to just listen to the top 50 hits, and artists like Taylor Swift snekking to get higher sales.
I think the rule is fair but it is a bit annoying for albums like divide and damn because they were massive and I think damn should be at least platinum. But the rule is good for some albums. DJ Khaled's Grateful hit #7 and only spent a few weeks in the top 50 but without that rule it could've been gold due to the success of 'I'm the One' and 'Wild Thoughts'
The main thing is that more and more consumers don't care for albums as a whole and it is reflected into the ridiculous albums figures. You can just compare albums market in 2000 to today to realize it. I won't be surprised if albums disappear in the next future.
If you want to have an interesting read about changes of the music industry, you shouyld try this blog held by MJDangerous. He's been analysing the music industry on the internet for about 15 years. In his past three articles, he's been explaining the impact of streaming on the music industry and music consumers. If you've got some time, try to give it a go because it's highly interesting and sums up perfectly what I want to explain lol:
Will try to read that later when I get the free time.
Don't get me wrong though I do agree with you in regards to how people consume/don't consume albums (I apologise if my post last night read as a bit too 'YOU'RE WRONG'), but in a sense, that apathy should be what's shown in the chart. I don't think we should artificially prop up the numbers to make it seem like people care more than they do, that's just hiding from the truth.
Don't worry Hijhinx. I didn't read your post as 'You're too wrong' at all lol.
I do understand your point but at the same time I can't help thinking that reducing the impact of the 2 most streamed tracks of an album is unfair.
A lot of one hit wonders in the past got big albums (see MC Hammer or Vanilla Ice).
In regards to manipulation, well, that already existed in the past with some acts deliberately releasing or re-releasing albums to artificially inflate sales thanks to fans. Not to mention fans of boy bands buying multiple copies of albums to get the best chart showing ever. It is easier for a fan top buy multiple copies of an album than stream tracks of an album to equal I album sale.
Most people in the past used to buy CD albums thanks to the big hits it generated without being particularly being interested in other tracks or the artist. Without those hits, albums wouldn't have sold as many units. With that ARIA rule, you completely take off the strength of albums, hence the pitiful streaming figures. I know we have the Singles Chart but it should also be reflected in the albums chart IMO. Even though streaming will keep growing, I doubt we'll get much higher figures than what they already are and won't be big enough to compensate the collapse of digital and physical albums sales.
2017 seems to be a pretty average year all round in terms of music. I haven't followed the ARIA charts much this year but after a quick glance of lists above it appears very pop flavoured Hopefully 2018 will be a better uear!
iTunes just released their top songs of 2017 in Australia and I thought I'd post the top 50 it here bc this will be a big part of the ARIA EOY
1. Shape of You (of course) - Ed Sheeran 2. Castle on the Hill - Ed Sheeran 3. Despacito - Luis Fonsi and Daddy Yankee feat. Justin Bieber 4. Rockabye - Clean Bandit feat. Sean Paul and Anne-Marie 5. Something Just like This - The Chainsmokers and Coldplay 6. I Don't Wanna Live Forever - ZAYN and Taylor Swift 7. Galway Girl - Ed Sheeran 8. Say You Won't Let Go - James Arthur 9. Starboy - The Weeknd feat. Daft Punk 10. 24K Magic - Bruno Mars 11. Slow Hands - Niall Horan 12. Fresh Eyes - Andy Grammer 13. Thunder - Imagine Dragons 14. Green Light - Lorde 15. Closer - The Chainsmokers feat. Halsey 16. I Feel It Coming - The Weeknd feat. Daft Punk 17. Can't Stop the Feeling - Justin Timberlake 18. There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back - Shawn Mendes 19. Stranger - Peking Duk feat. Elliphant 20. Issues - Julia Michaels 21. Sexual - NEIKED feat. Dyo 22. I'm the One - DJ Khaled feat. Justin Bieber, Quavo, Chance the Rapper and Lil Wayne 23. It Ain't Me - Kygo & Selena Gomez 24. Strip That Down - Liam Payne feat. Quavo 25. That's What I Like - Bruno Mars 26. Adore - Amy Shark 27. Symphony - Clean Bandit feat. Zara Larsson 28. Human - Rag 'N' Bone Man 29. Stay - Zedd and Alessia Cara 30. Play That Song - Train 31. Dancing on My Own - Calum Scott 32. Sign of the Times - Harry Styles 33. Shout Out to My Ex - Little Mix 34. HUMBLE. - Kendrick Lamar 35. Scars to Your Beautiful - Alessia Cara 36. Malibu - Miley Cyrus 37. You Don't Know Me - Jax Jones feat. RAYE 38. Paris - The Chainsmokers 39. All Time Low - Jon Bellion 40. Waves - Dean Lewis 41. Black Beatles - Rae Sremmurd feat. Gucci Mane 42. Capsize - Frenship and Emily Warren 43. Body Like a Back Road - Sam Hunt 44. Glorious - Macklemore feat. Skylar Grey 45. What About Us - P!nk 46. Mama - Jonas Blue feat. William Singe 47. Chained to the Rhythm - Katy Perry feat. Skip Marley 48. Call on Me - Starley 49. Feels - Calvin Harris feat. Pharrell Williams, Katy Perry and Big Sean 50. Attention - Charlie Puth